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Post by joel on Mar 28, 2020 13:59:01 GMT -5
I'm a member of a profession and would like to send a one time email to each person. I have about 10,000 email addresses.
MyISP is very limited and I believe Gmail allows 500 emails at a time (I'll bcc people)? I'd rather not pay for an app. I know people email newsletters and other periodic things, but this will be a one time email. I expect many responses to whatever "from" address appears on what they receive.
All ideas appreciated. Joel
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Post by jholland1964 on Mar 28, 2020 14:03:43 GMT -5
Not sure of any free ones that allow that many though. Gmail is likely your best bet for something free.But even gmail does have limits.
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Post by joel on Mar 28, 2020 17:26:08 GMT -5
Would there be an inexpensive one which would serve the purpose? If I had to, I'd pay a one time fee to accomplish this.
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Post by jholland1964 on Mar 28, 2020 17:59:23 GMT -5
Would there be an inexpensive one which would serve the purpose? If I had to, I'd pay a one time fee to accomplish this. I honestly have no idea. Truly I don't even know 10,000 people. LOL. Maybe somebody else will have an idea. You might check yahoo. I only suggest this because have a friend who just spent days deleting 6000+ emails from her husband's yahoo account. Maybe they don't have a limit. I don't know, never have used yahoo
Curious, what are these mails for? You said these are professional mails then they are business then the business should pay for them. If political then there are political pacs that do this. If they are from some organization then the organization, alumni association, sorority, fraternity should cover the costs. I just have never heard of an individual responsible to send out 10,000 emails solely by him/herself.
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Post by joel on Mar 28, 2020 21:24:33 GMT -5
Without going into personal details, I'm trying to save the business from paying if it can be done. If not, the business will pay, but I'd like to be able to suggest the best program/app for the lowest price.
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Post by bigtoe on Mar 28, 2020 21:25:35 GMT -5
Would there be an inexpensive one which would serve the purpose? If I had to, I'd pay a one time fee to accomplish this. If you are sending out a political notice or a bulk mail advertising, as Judy suggested you would likely best be served by paying a token fee to a bulk mailing service so your own Internet provider doesn't classify you as a spammer and prevent you from using their email service .... If you're sending from a group they could pay for it as a possibility.....
Here's a link to a Microsoft Mail Merge article from a few months ago that you could use with Gmail or Outlook Mail as a possibility, but I don't know if there is a limit to the amount you could send out at one time..... You would need something like MS Excel to create your massive mail merge list...
That article gives you some ideas on inexpensive programs and provides steps on completing the task for free ...... You might also consider perhaps something like only 2,000 at a time or breaking down your list into smaller groups and sending the same message over a full day or two ... You mention getting replies back from some of the addressees, so you would want to be sure and use a legitamite email address or a new free one you create just for the purpose of sending out the message....... The main concern of your ISP is not to promote spamming from their site so all ISP's, or honorable ones at least, will limit the amount of outgoing email a client can send...... That is less a problem with a paid for service that is in the business of bulk mailing for advertisers or political groups.......
Programs like "Yahoo Groups" allow notifications to be sent out to the entire group, but usually those 10,000 folks would need to join the group via the group administrator....... That may not be what you are interested in....
If you do a web search for "sending bulk email" you'll get lots of hits for various pay programs and some free ones that likely would have a limit much smaller than 10,000 . That's why the suggestion to break down your listing into smaller groups of maybe 500-1,000 or so .....
I haven't done anything like this so couldn't suggest a specific program or process from personal experience. I do receive monthly or weekly emails from several former work related groups from my working days, and they tend to come via mail merge MS programs that help the senders avoid being classified or their work sites being classified as spammers.... 
EDIT*** sorry, was typing when you were sending the previous message but I think the info I gave and the sites referenced, or that you would find in a web search, would work for your business group
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Post by joel on Mar 28, 2020 22:00:58 GMT -5
Thanks Big Toe. I'll look into your suggestions. I am aware of the need to break down the number of recipients for most ISPs. I'm hoping I can find an app which just takes all the email addresses and emails the message and whatever server/ISP they use won't deal with it like spam. I know people have newsletters they send to a large number of people. I was hoping for a specific recommendation, but your links will be helpful. J
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Post by bigbarney on Mar 29, 2020 10:16:56 GMT -5
Just a thought.
Rather than trying to send an email, why not create a text document containing your message and save it as a pdf. Then upload the pdf to Google Docs (assuming you have a Google account) and then send all your 10,000 recipients a link to the document?
Should work.
EDIT!............Please forget this suggestion, still needs you to send 10,000 emails!!!!...........Doh!
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Post by jholland1964 on Mar 29, 2020 10:19:02 GMT -5
Wouldn't this still involve an email to 10,000 containing the link?
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Post by bigbarney on Mar 29, 2020 10:21:34 GMT -5
Wouldn't this still involve an email to 10,000 containing the link? I just realised this Judy and amended my reply...........Doh! |
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Post by jholland1964 on Mar 29, 2020 10:36:21 GMT -5
Wouldn't this still involve an email to 10,000 containing the link? I just realised this Judy and amended my reply...........Doh! LOL! 
I checked with my granddaughter, who is an IT Specialist for a large company, for a recommendation of an app or program that would enable a person to be able to do this for free or small fee and she said that a business this large should already have this ability in place for those who are authorized to do this. Check with the IT Dept.
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Post by joel on Mar 30, 2020 1:29:17 GMT -5
Appreciate Big Barney's attempt and Judy's clarification. As to the granddaughter with all the answers--not knowing the situation--please ask what app or program her company uses so we could look into it. I'd respectfully tell the granddaughter that companies don't have something before they do and I'd appreciate recommendations as to what we should obtain. J
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Post by jholland1964 on Mar 30, 2020 7:20:43 GMT -5
You have insulted my granddaughter and therefore have insulted me. She could NOT give any more of an answer than she did because you refuse to give us any information. I will not ask her for any other information and I will not offer any other suggestions except do a google search and also read this link;
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Post by joel on Mar 30, 2020 14:05:34 GMT -5
I find this puzzling.
1. There are over 400,000 members of the ABA and over 200,000 members of the AMA and other organizations with large memberships. There are sections w/in associations with over 10,000 members. So sending 10,000 notifications is not uncommon.
2. I don't see why anyone is insulted. I was asking for a program or app which would accomplish what I seek and instead there is some implicit judgment that what I'm doing is improper, when in fact it is quite legitimate.
3. It would seem to me that anyone scamming, phishing or with other nefarious intent would already know how to effect their purpose w/o turning to this site for advice and I think you would assume the best not the worst in the question.
4. I don't understand why your granddaughter didn't simply suggest a program or app or even one her company uses so I can contact them and see if would fulfill my need.
5. I occasionally visit this site for advice. I was a member of Worldstart also. I think if you read my posts you will see my questions and responses are legitimate and respectful. I thought I'd receive a helpful response w/o being required to discuss exactly what I'm emailing. I do appreciate the effort although honestly I'm not sure which of us has the higher ground to be insulted--as no insult from me was intended. J
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Post by jholland1964 on Mar 30, 2020 14:32:39 GMT -5
My granddaughter works for a company that does classified work for the US and UK. Hence the mail programs they use are in house developed and designed by their own company software creators. Therefore nobody else can use them.
Nobody here said, suggested or even implied what you are doing is improper therefore you are reading something into replies and our questions that just are not there.
We know nothing about what you are sending, number of characters or words, straight text, graphics, pictures, graphs included or not...nothing. Depending on speed and limit of internet service used ALL of that figures in to ability to send email, one mail or 10,000 mails. Therefore nobody here could possibly give a good suggestion to fit your needs because nobody knows what your needs are.
I urge you to read the link I gave you above and this other one I found
also read this one found by Everton:
You now have been given six links to read by four different people if you find nothing on any of them then not sure what to say except obviously nobody here has ever done this and we have done all we can to find an answer for you.
All six links by the way were very easily found using a simple google search using the words "send bulk email free" there are many, many more.
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Post by joel on Mar 30, 2020 14:52:23 GMT -5
Much appreciated. All this will be helpful and sorry for any misunderstanding. Joel
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Post by bigtoe on Mar 30, 2020 23:04:45 GMT -5
All six links by the way were very easily found using a simple google search using the words "send bulk email free" there are many, many more.
Judy ..... Were you looking over my shoulder when I typed in my Duck Duck Go search, using those same exact words?....  ...... Just pulling' your leg (from a 6 foot social/physical separation distance per COVID-19 directives for our state).... Yup, the results for those search words gave a large list of pay and free programs for Joel to select from.... And really agree with you that it is really the user of whichever program or process they choose to decide on a specific program to fit their ISP restrictions, computer needs, and all the sending/receiving criteria their circumstance presents..... Sorry to hear you also, as I do, fit into the senior with compromised health conditions that are so endangered to this pandemic virus that is going around the world and interrupting so much of what is the "norm" of our and family lives for all the world. Pray that a successful vaccine can be found for this and the next seasonal round of this catastrophic new strain of virus... So hope that folks will pay attention to the need to stay home as much as possible and flatten the curve of infection so life can get back to something like a "normal" life for everyone as soon as possible.... Stay safe and healthy, and thanks for all the help that you and so many others provide at this wonderful site.... May everyone be able to come out of this with saying " I'm so blessed and thankful", and so broken hearted for all those families that will have such sad memories of this period in our lives... Enjoy your loved ones each day, there are no promises of or for a tomorrow"..... |
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Post by jholland1964 on Mar 31, 2020 11:48:10 GMT -5
All six links by the way were very easily found using a simple google search using the words "send bulk email free" there are many, many more.
Judy ..... Were you looking over my shoulder when I typed in my Duck Duck Go search, using those same exact words?.... ...... Just pulling' your leg (from a 6 foot social/physical separation distance per COVID-19 directives for our state).... Yup, the results for those search words gave a large list of pay and free programs for Joel to select from.... And really agree with you that it is really the user of whichever program or process they choose to decide on a specific program to fit their ISP restrictions, computer needs, and all the sending/receiving criteria their circumstance presents..... Sorry to hear you also, as I do, fit into the senior with compromised health conditions that are so endangered to this pandemic virus that is going around the world and interrupting so much of what is the "norm" of our and family lives for all the world. Pray that a successful vaccine can be found for this and the next seasonal round of this catastrophic new strain of virus... So hope that folks will pay attention to the need to stay home as much as possible and flatten the curve of infection so life can get back to something like a "normal" life for everyone as soon as possible.... Stay safe and healthy, and thanks for all the help that you and so many others provide at this wonderful site.... May everyone be able to come out of this with saying " I'm so blessed and thankful", and so broken hearted for all those families that will have such sad memories of this period in our lives... Enjoy your loved ones each day, there are no promises of or for a tomorrow"..... Now I understand the strange "pull on my leg" I felt yesterday and the feeling that I was not writing alone as I did my DuckDuckGo search....LOL. Oh yes, I am definitely in the "chosen group". Scary for sure but working hard to keep my spirits up, sometimes it isn't easy but I just tell myself to "snap out of it!" Once in awhile it works.
Your words mean so much BigToe. We all will benefit from them. Thank you.
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...... Just pulling' your leg (from a 6 foot social/physical separation distance per COVID-19 directives for our state).... Yup, the results for those search words gave a large list of pay and free programs for Joel to select from.... And really agree with you that it is really the user of whichever program or process they choose to decide on a specific program to fit their ISP restrictions, computer needs, and all the sending/receiving criteria their circumstance presents.....