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Post by wantalearn on Feb 2, 2020 12:28:20 GMT -5
I just recently got a computer with Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit, I put Paint Shop Pro 9 on. I would like to install some of the plugins I had with my Windows 7 computer which I did. I downloaded the "Toadies" filters and put them in my plugin folder in PSP. In PSP 9 when I click on Effects-Plugins-Toadies-then any of the filters that are listed under Toadies I get this message in PSP 9 "Paint Shop Pro was unable to load the requested plug in filter. The plug in may not be installed properly or may be missing files" I remember when I had Windows 7 and PSP I had to download some dll's in order for the plugins to work. That has been so long ago I don't remember how I did it, where I got the dll's from or how to install them.
Can someone please help me out but telling me where to get the dll's, how to install them step by step and where to get some free plugins for PSP.
Thank you.
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Post by jholland1964 on Feb 2, 2020 14:35:30 GMT -5
Adding some dll file is likely not really going to do you any good. I have never used the PSP program, however, you said your Windows 10 is a 64bit os. It is possible that that you installed only the 64 bit version of PSP, while the filters you want to use might be 32 bit and so they won't work with 64 bit PSP. That's one of the reasons the PSP installation process offers to install both the 32 and 64 bit versions of the program. Did you take both versions? If not you should completely uninstall it and then reinstall both versions. "This is quite common as many manufacturers of older filters never update them to 64 bit." If those filters are indeed older filters then it is likely the problem.
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Post by Everton on Feb 2, 2020 15:16:49 GMT -5
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Post by wantalearn on Feb 3, 2020 15:43:06 GMT -5
Thank you both jholland and Everton for the links you posted. I guess I'll have to do without the plugins, I couldn't find any instructions for installing them on Windows 10 and that's what I would need was specific instructions for me to follow otherwise I wouldn't feel comfortable doing it, I'd be afraid of doing something wrong.
Thanks again.
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Post by Everton on Feb 4, 2020 17:12:21 GMT -5
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Post by wantalearn on Feb 4, 2020 17:27:27 GMT -5
Thanks Everton.
I checked the link out but I have a question for you. Before I actually add the dlls, if I would write down here what I understand as the step by step instructions on where and how to put those dlls where they belong would you be willing to double check to make sure I'm putting them in the right place? I noticed the site said the instructions for Windows 10 are the same as for Windows 7 but I'd feel a lot more comfortable doing this if I knew there was someone that would make sure I'm going about doing it correctly.
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Post by Everton on Feb 4, 2020 19:56:07 GMT -5
My understanding was that the required .dlls are included with the toadie plugins Downloads that are in the list. Is that not the case ?
I am away from home right now and using my phone. When I am back at my computer with PSP I will have another look.
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Post by Everton on Feb 5, 2020 6:23:30 GMT -5
I have downloaded the Toadies File from the link I gave in my last post www.lismibaebi.com/FiltersandPlugins/FiltersandPlugins.htmlI extracted all of the contents into a Folder with the same name (Toadies) I then installed the Toadies Folder in the usual way into the PSP Plugins folder which in my case is C:\Program Files (x86)\Corel\Corel Paint Shop Pro X\PlugIns Yours of course will be PSP 9 (and possibly is Jasc not Corel ?) If you are not sure where your Plugins are located you can look in File/Preferences/File Locations in the PSP program. It is important that "Enable" and "Enable Subfolders" are both checked. This is a good tutorial for anyone needing to install PSP Plugins www.namesuppressed.com/support/plugins-psp.shtmlI just dropped the Toadies folder with the extracted contents inside into the plugins folder and restarted PSP and the Toadies plugins were there and working. There are 46 in total but only 41 of them show in the Effects/Toadies list. I did not need to add any .dll files for these Toadies but as I said 5 of them do not appear. You could have a look at what plugins are included in the download Zip - maybe they are the same or similar to the ones you have already tried to install. I can not think of anything else to suggest except to make sure they are properly installed in the correct place. I did try adding a copy of the MSVCRT10.dll into the Toadies folder but it made no difference. I am not sure if it should go there (some applications need it to be there) or whether it should be placed in C:\Windows\System32. I also tried adding it to System 32 but again it did not make any difference. I would not like to suggest you add it anywhere as it does no seem to be necessary for these particular plugins - but the ones you already have may be different. We are working with very old versions of PSP and I guess we have to accept that not all will work properly.
EDIT: I found 3 more Toadies filters in effects under the title The Toads Pool.
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Post by wantalearn on Feb 5, 2020 14:19:30 GMT -5
Thanks Everton for all of your help. I did everything you said to try and checked everything along with reading the links you posted but those plugins still won't work, I keep getting the same message as what I posted in my first post. I guess I'll just have to use PSP without any plugins. 
Thank you again for taking the time to try and help me out, it is very much appreciated.
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Post by Everton on Feb 5, 2020 16:20:42 GMT -5
I am sorry they don’t work for you.
I have also installed several of the other plugins from the lismibaebi site and they all work as well.
The only difference is that you have PSP 9 and mine is10.
Would any new ones from that link work ? They are all 8bf files which should be ok.
You have .NET Framework up to date .? It updates via windows update .
Maybe trying a different editor such as Paint.net may be an option.
Or maybe just add one of the plugin 8bf files to the plugin folder without including it in a subfolder and see if that resolves it.
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Post by wantalearn on Feb 6, 2020 13:16:43 GMT -5
I'm wondering also if PSP 9 is just to old for any plugins. I did download and tried to install I forget now which ones from the site you mentioned and they wouldn't work either. I'm assuming the NET Network is up to date, I checked and the Windows updates are all current. I even tried adding one of the plugin files to the plugin folder without including it in a sub folder, still didn't work. Guess I'll just use PSP 9 without any plugins. Thank you for all the help.
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Post by jholland1964 on Feb 6, 2020 16:26:02 GMT -5
I'm wondering also if PSP 9 is just to old for any plugins.
As I said earlier I haven't used the program but I noticed your comment and felt maybe I should point out that PSP 9 was released in August 2004 so it is nearly 16 years old and according to OldVersion.com it is only promised that it works on these OS's; Windows 95 / Windows 98 / Windows 2000 / Windows XP / Windows Vista.
I know you've used it on Windows 7 but remember that Windows 10 is actually the third os since Windows 7 because after 7 came Windows 8 and then 8.1.
I know we all hate to give up our favorite programs but sometimes it just can't be helped because the cost for the developers to keep every single program updated to be able to work with every OS is just not something that most of the time is not worth it. Plus coding alone between those systems the program was developed for may be quite different from those available today.
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Post by Everton on Feb 6, 2020 19:24:37 GMT -5
Judy the actual program works it is just the plugins added that are the problem. Many people are still using PSP 9 as it was considered a very good version. However some have reported that it will not install at all. I have 8 (from Jasc)that will not install on win 10 (but it worked on 8)and X (from Corel)which does work as do most of my plugins (but not all ) including Toadies.
Different graphics devices appear to be relevant as does the different locations of the necessary .dlls for 32bit or 64 bit versions.
I believe one of them installs with adobe PS programs (I think it’s called plugin.dll) so having that installed is a fix for some.
When Corel bought out Jasc they never updated 9 and don’t seem able to advise on any problems relating to it. Understandable as they want us to buy new versions.
You are correct we do hate giving up our favourites. I continue to use psp despite having adobe PS and Lightroom and numerous others.Most of them do accept the 8bf plugins (which the Toadies ones are) so trying another editor if the plugins are essential is the other alternative. Upgrading to a later version of PSP would not necessarily make those Toadies filter plugins useable but there are many other new ones that are.
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Post by jholland1964 on Feb 6, 2020 21:01:45 GMT -5
Sorry, I understand the program works I was just making an observation that with the program being that old it would not be unusual for the coding for plugins and the like to no longer work with newer operating systems.
Just a comment really.
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Post by Everton on Feb 7, 2020 1:01:34 GMT -5
Sorry, I understand the program works I was just making an observation that with the program being that old it would not be unusual for the coding for plugins and the like to no longer work with newer operating systems. Just a comment really. Totally agree.  I am thinking I am very fortunate to be able to use the 8bf plugins with psp X on Windows 10. I sometimes fire up my old XP computer just to use psp 8 because I like it better. I was just trying to find some way for wantalearn to use their plugins as they did on 7. It looks like that may not be possible. |
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Post by wantalearn on Feb 7, 2020 12:28:02 GMT -5
I think you may be right Everton, it's not going to be possible for me to get any plugins to work.
I also have PSP 7 on this computer as I also like that version, I happened to think to try 7 and see if just maybe the plugins would work with that version, I had been only trying on 9. Same thing with 7, I get the same box that comes up with 9.
I also tried to install PSP 14 a couple of times and that one won't even install for me. That's OK as I like 9 and 7 better. I guess I'll just have to use it without the extra plugins.
Judy you are so right it is hard to give up some of the programs we like, the older versions of PSP being one of those, at least the programs themselves still work for me on Windows 10. I'll be happy with that. |
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